I think this is like a jazz variant ? Fusion? Idk. I’m not well versed. I’d like to dabble more
But I fucking love this album!! So much!
Wow, thanks for the info! I’ve never really dabbled in Buckley’s discography, but maybe I’ll dip a toe in.
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Nice! I’m not familiar with either of these but Shrimp Dance goes hard, Japan is very known for great Fusion. Speaking of sacrilege, there are also people who would consider anything Fusion as the death of Jazz, though I think by now it would be considered a crucially important part of Jazz history.
The name comes from the fusion between Jazz and Rock, from established artists like Miles Davis drawing inspiration from people like Jimi Hendrix. Davis even opened for The Dead once, so in your dabbling you might find even some of their jams count.
This is a staple of Japanese Fusion, especially as it was recorded live:
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Really cool that you make the Dead connection @W.B.T.G.Slinger. I was obsessed with the Dead in high school and reading about their influences lead me directly to Miles and Coltrane. Mind-blowing stuff for a 15 year old, let me tell you.
I’m sure it was, as it blew mine finding out about it only a few months ago!
Even more fascinating with the mystery surrounding the connection. I haven’t done a deep dive but from what I have read its not very certain which night he opened for them, or if it was recorded.
Not good to place too many ‘what ifs’ on these already monumental musicians and moments, but of course it makes you wonder what it would have been like if they played together? Probably like two stars crashing together, so its pretty special to have Dead jams that sound like Miles Fusion arrangements, and fresh styles from Miles that came from his respect of the Psych Rock movement.
We probably have Bill Graham to thank for the pairing. Can’t recall where I read this, but I know the Dead were beyond excited to share a bill with Miles, but I don’t believe the feeling was mutual.
Haha, I guess he was used to it at the stage.
one of the last streaming holdouts
I constantly wonder how many are left, we’ll never truly know.
Jay Z, Fripp, and Tool caved. Prince’s estate couldn’t help themselves. Joni Mitchel and Neil Young aren’t against the model itself. De La Soul was a rights issue and has been cleared up, similar situation with some of the classic Death Row Records stuff and countless other rights ownership issues like Aaliyah. Obviously theres a whole world of Hip-Hop mixtapes that will never make streaming, but that isn’t really ‘holding out’. B L A C K I E blurs the mixtape line, but I think he chooses not to stream. Garth Brooks went the exclusivity route with Amazon.
Joanna Newsom is the only one I can still think of who didn’t like the idea of streaming from the start and has just chosen never to participate, but there must still be quite a few relatively mainstream ones I’m missing.
Yeah dude. Before this I’d listened to Headhunters and maybe a random other record but this is the one that was like, WHOA, how do I find more Herbie like THIS? His discography is intimidating but I love this album so much so I’ve just been coming back to this one again and again. Thrust is a similar format to Headhunters, and I’ve listened to 3/4 of those over and over, and I just recently listened to ManChild and that one is pretty similar to Secrets. I WANT MORE. Suppose I’ll have to keep digging around in his discog.
You’re hitting all the sweet spots for fusion-era Herbie. Check out Sextant if you want something with a little more evil Miles edge to it. (It’s also features some of the dopest album art of all time.)
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Hell yeah, I believe i listened to this one while driving cross country once and wasn’t in to it, but sometimes I feel like what you’re doing can take the good out of an album and a second listen can REALLY open it up for ya. Might have just been sick of driving or drowsy or something. I feel like I remember a LONG, kind of evil, scary song. Thanks for the recc.
Damn, I hadn’t heard this Miles Fusion influenced stuff of his, really sounds like it could have been from On The Corner, very evil.
I knew that cover artist had to be the same as Bitches Brew or ripping it off, and found that Mati Klarwein did all sorts of great album artworks including Santana’s Abraxas. Really cool stuff.
@Dr_TurkeymanMD haha I guess you’re talking about Hornets. I personally think this kind of stuff makes great driving music, but yeah in the wrong context 19 minutes of one song like that can very easily grind your psyche down. I like skateboarding to this era of Miles too.
Panthalassa : the Music of Miles Davis 1969 - 1974 reconstructed and music translation by Bill Laswell is a true fusion gem. Must listen to for fans of Davis’ fusion period ranging from In a Silent Way thru Get Up with It. I’m a big Jack Johnson, Pangea, & Agharta guy and this disc is my jam.
ETA: won’t let me link
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Wow !! I really love Alice Coltrane’s work. It is majestical. The whole Coltrane family is so talented. Their son is on the sax in the last video.
Hell yeah. I really like the album she did with Santana too:
Oooo I didn’t know about that !!
Streaming is not going away. To still be avoiding it is kind of nuts. Its really a matter of trying to get a larger share of revenues. Try things like punishing the worst offenders like Spotify that chose to pay a controversial podcaster at a much higher rate. I’ve wondered why musicians/artists haven’t tried to find a way to unionize if possible, particularly the increasingly number of independent ones to collectively bargain for things like streaming revenue and all the touring costs like fees for selling merch, particularly since so many of them are dealing with the same few companies like Spotify and Live Nation. More artists might try to focus on YouTube as well. My understanding is that YouTube streaming rates are at least 2x most other sources. There are artists like Ren who make a comfortable living almost completely on YouTube…he’s got over a million subs and like 50 videos with over a million views by being extremely creative on a low independent budget. And then there is Laufey…
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Huh, just seen that she’s on Youtube Music too. I guess her issue was with Spotify specifically for the reasons mentioned. She’s an all-time favourite so no issues buying vinyl/digital and listening through local files. I am on the verge of switching to Youtube Music though.
The way I see it, its all the same labels exploiting artists issue that has always existed, just carried into a new fully digital/internet model.